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bukkaz Fujiwara
Posts : 3447 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 35 Location : Stafford, England
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:42 pm | |
| - KraZe wrote:
- The AE86 will always have a tendency to oversteer because of its old design. Also the fattest tires you can install are mere 225s (same problem with the FC3S). The good thing about the 86 is its insane acceleration (like what 7.2-7.4 in B-class right?) so when driving it you have to maximize its strengths (exit speed, straights (ironic right?), and nimble body) while keeping its faults at bay (skinny tires which result in: a tendency to oversteer, relatively lower cornering speed, relatively bad braking).
But hey, Betadood and Wilson have proven these things wrong so see if you can ask them for tips or something All in all, just practice with it enough and keeping the 86 under control will become second nature. Thanks for the time u have taken on giving me this advice it ok to add u on xbl? | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:57 pm | |
| Sure but I won't be able to accept it until next Monday since I'm still in my college finals GT: il KraZe li (the l are actually Ls not Is) | |
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bukkaz Fujiwara
Posts : 3447 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 35 Location : Stafford, England
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:40 pm | |
| - KraZe wrote:
- Sure but I won't be able to accept it until next Monday since I'm still in my college finals
GT: il KraZe li (the l are actually Ls not Is) that's cool man thanks :-) | |
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Ryosuke Takahashi Water Spiller
Posts : 62 Join date : 2012-12-08 Location : APX Caramel
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:07 pm | |
| So hour after hour of trying to get a clean 4:50... I've given up for now. 4:51.083 dirty is what I ended up with. Trying to be fast and not go dirty is terrible. Idk how ya'll do it. The FC is starting to feel in well though. | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:15 pm | |
| "Rome wasn't built in a day" | |
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MiNd Founder
Posts : 2059 Join date : 2012-12-07 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:21 pm | |
| - Ryosuke Takahashi wrote:
- So hour after hour of trying to get a clean 4:50... I've given up for now. 4:51.083 dirty is what I ended up with. Trying to be fast and not go dirty is terrible. Idk how ya'll do it. The FC is starting to feel in well though.
Overall, I have probably put in a good 6 or 7 hours over the last few weeks of hot lapping just to shave .5 off my time and keep it clean. Still haven't achieved that goal yet :/ | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:29 pm | |
| I've put in about 0 hours over the past 4 months | |
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StrawberryGL Touge Veteran
Posts : 1340 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:48 pm | |
| - MiNdChArGeR wrote:
- I saw "RedSuns Ryosuke" consistently run 4:40, 4:41s, so Grave is 3rd fastest FC
Oh yeah, I remember now. We should be running pretty even times at this point, might be a fun race. | |
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Calsonic Tofu Delivery Driver
Posts : 165 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : Dallas, TX
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:50 pm | |
| Dang, a 4:36... I've barely driven the new/old downhill too. I'm gonna need practice. What stage is that time for again? That one and the 4:37. | |
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MiNd Founder
Posts : 2059 Join date : 2012-12-07 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:56 pm | |
| - Calsonic wrote:
- Dang, a 4:36... I've barely driven the new/old downhill too. I'm gonna need practice. What stage is that time for again? That one and the 4:37.
New Downhill, the New downhill is the main attraction, usually the track for most public lobbies and usually the time on which your skill is based. etc | |
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StrawberryGL Touge Veteran
Posts : 1340 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:01 pm | |
| - MiNdChArGeR wrote:
- New Downhill, the New downhill is the main attraction, usually the track for most public lobbies and usually the time on which your skill is based. etc
Yep, everyone mostly sticks to the New Downhill. Don't let that keep you from the other stages though, they're all important. | |
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Calsonic Tofu Delivery Driver
Posts : 165 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : Dallas, TX
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:02 pm | |
| Ok thanks guys. I'm not going for #1 because that's not possible, but I do want to get a good time. | |
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MiNd Founder
Posts : 2059 Join date : 2012-12-07 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| - Calsonic wrote:
- Ok thanks guys.
I'm not going for #1 because that's not possible, but I do want to get a good time. Just set goals for yourself, Im not sure what times your running but I'll just give a general goal 4:50 would be the first goal, breaking into the 40s is the most important, there is alot of competition there and most of the touge community run somewhere in the 40s. There are fewer and fewer as you get closer to 4:40. Anything below 4:40 is amazing. Many of the known teams on the touge scene have a few members running under 4:40. | |
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Rotary Tofu Delivery Driver
Posts : 231 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 28 Location : Christchurch, New Zealand.
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:11 pm | |
| New Down Hill is normally run in friendly battles and for Hot laps, but for Comps and Time Trials it's normally either B reverse or A reverse. | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| IMO A fast time on either the New or Old Hillclimb deserves more respect than your downhill time if you did it in a RWD Just sayin' | |
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Konasumi Touge Veteran
Posts : 1895 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 25 Location : CA
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| - Calsonic wrote:
- Ok thanks guys.
I'm not going for #1 because that's not possible, but I do want to get a good time. Like MiNd said. Just set goals for yourself. I used to run 5:15's in my MX-5 when I first started, now I run about 4:38 on average because of the goals I set. | |
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MiNd Founder
Posts : 2059 Join date : 2012-12-07 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:14 pm | |
| I'm hoping that after the first event, which will be downhill and is in the planning stage atm, that we can have an uphill event I actually really like the uphill, its just a rare occasion to see a pub lobby running uphill | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:18 pm | |
| - MiNdChArGeR wrote:
- I'm hoping that after the first event, which will be downhill and is in the planning stage atm, that we can have an uphill event
I actually really like the uphill, its just a rare occasion to see a pub lobby running uphill New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb New Hillclimb | |
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Calsonic Tofu Delivery Driver
Posts : 165 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : Dallas, TX
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:28 pm | |
| - MiNdChArGeR wrote:
- Calsonic wrote:
- Ok thanks guys.
I'm not going for #1 because that's not possible, but I do want to get a good time. Just set goals for yourself, Im not sure what times your running but I'll just give a general goal
4:50 would be the first goal, breaking into the 40s is the most important, there is alot of competition there and most of the touge community run somewhere in the 40s. There are fewer and fewer as you get closer to 4:40.
Anything below 4:40 is amazing. Many of the known teams on the touge scene have a few members running under 4:40.
I'm gonna need to learn the lines and dial in my tune. It's gonna be a whole before I'm there haha. Thanks man. | |
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bukkaz Fujiwara
Posts : 3447 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 35 Location : Stafford, England
| Subject: My 86 tune setup Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:54 pm | |
| Ive put the info on my 86 up on here, does anyone have any suggestions on how to make it corner better? - Spoiler:
Info:
Make:Toyota
Model: AE86
DriveType: RWD
Performance Index (PI):471
Horsepower:153
Torque:119
Weight:1,852 LBS
Front:52%
Displacement:1.6
List of upgrades
Engine and Power sport camshaft Race flywheel
Platform and handling Race brakes Race springs and dampers Race front anti-roll bars Race rear anti-roll bars Sport chassis reinforcement and roll cage Race weight reduction
Drivetrain Race clutch Race transmission Race driveline Race differential
Tires and Rims Race tire compound Max front tire width Max rear tire width Compomotive ML rims
Aero and Appearence None
Conversion None
Tune
Tire Pressure
front:30.3
rear:30.1
Gearing
Final drive:4.21
1st:2.89
2nd:1.99
3rd:1.51
4th:1.20
5th:1.00
6th:0.85
Alignment
Camber
Front: -1.0
Rear: -0.8
Toe
Front:0.0
Rear:0.3
Front Caster:5.0
Anti-Roll Bars
Front:22.90
Rear:22.20
Springs
Front:423.7
Rear:414.2
Ride Height
Front:5.6
Rear:5.6
Damping
Rebound Stiffness
Front:7.7
Rear:7.4
Bump Stiffness
Front:5.9
Rear:5.7
Aero
Front: N/A
Rear:N/A
Braking
Balance:50%
Pressure:100%
Differential
Rear Accel:15%
Rear Decel:15%
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StrawberryGL Touge Veteran
Posts : 1340 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:12 pm | |
| I'm no AE86 expert or anything, so take this with a grain of salt, but I would try increasing your brake pressure as well as biasing it towards the rear. I'd try around 110% pressure and 49-48% balance to start with.
Also keep in mind that an 86 will never really corner well. Your going to be walking a fine line every time you corner. Just concentrate on maximizing exit speed and try not to thrash it too much and you should get faster. My brother might be able to give you some more tuning tips, i'm sure he'll post here if he has anything for you. | |
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bukkaz Fujiwara
Posts : 3447 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 35 Location : Stafford, England
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:30 pm | |
| - StrawberryGL wrote:
- I'm no AE86 expert or anything, so take this with a grain of salt, but I would try increasing your brake pressure as well as biasing it towards the rear. I'd try around 110% pressure and 49-48% balance to start with.
Also keep in mind that an 86 will never really corner well. Your going to be walking a fine line every time you corner. Just concentrate on maximizing exit speed and try not to thrash it too much and you should get faster. My brother might be able to give you some more tuning tips, i'm sure he'll post here if he has anything for you. Thanks for the advice man | |
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Smooth92 Founder
Posts : 602 Join date : 2012-12-06 Age : 32 Location : Chicago
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:38 pm | |
| - bukkaz wrote:
- Ive put the info on my 86 up on here, does anyone have any suggestions on how to make it corner better?
- Spoiler:
Info:
Make:Toyota
Model: AE86
DriveType: RWD
Performance Index (PI):471
Horsepower:153
Torque:119
Weight:1,852 LBS
Front:52%
Displacement:1.6
List of upgrades
Engine and Power sport camshaft Race flywheel
Platform and handling Race brakes Race springs and dampers Race front anti-roll bars Race rear anti-roll bars Sport chassis reinforcement and roll cage Race weight reduction
Drivetrain Race clutch Race transmission Race driveline Race differential
Tires and Rims Race tire compound Max front tire width Max rear tire width Compomotive ML rims
Aero and Appearence None
Conversion None
Tune
Tire Pressure
front:30.3
rear:30.1
Gearing
Final drive:4.21
1st:2.89
2nd:1.99
3rd:1.51
4th:1.20
5th:1.00
6th:0.85
Alignment
Camber
Front: -1.0
Rear: -0.8
Toe
Front:0.0
Rear:0.3
Front Caster:5.0
Anti-Roll Bars
Front:22.90
Rear:22.20
Springs
Front:423.7
Rear:414.2
Ride Height
Front:5.6
Rear:5.6
Damping
Rebound Stiffness
Front:7.7
Rear:7.4
Bump Stiffness
Front:5.9
Rear:5.7
Aero
Front: N/A
Rear:N/A
Braking
Balance:50%
Pressure:100%
Differential
Rear Accel:15%
Rear Decel:15%
Added to the list, thanks! | |
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Calsonic Tofu Delivery Driver
Posts : 165 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : Dallas, TX
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:18 pm | |
| I think he asked for feedback lol. I'm not sure he wanted that up there. | |
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StrawberryGL Touge Veteran
Posts : 1340 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Touge Tune Database Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:27 pm | |
| - Calsonic wrote:
- I think he asked for feedback lol. I'm not sure he wanted that up there.
Seconded. | |
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