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Well yeah that's the point, having a car with so much power and such small tires would make it hard to drive on the uphill. But it could teach you about areas where you could lose control in a car that is not as connected to the road. For example you see a lot of AWD cars smoking their tires while at the hairpins, that's because they don't have a smooth enough technique to take the hairpins as fast as they could.

I guess that's true. How much of a difference is there with AWD and RWD on the uphill?

Do you mean with an 86 or just cars in general?

In general.

The only thing that can even keep up with AWD cars are mid engine RWD usually, a novice in a AWD can easily get to 4:42 on the uphill while a above average driver in a RWD can get about the same time in a RWD car.

betadood wrote:

The only thing that can even keep up with AWD cars are mid engine RWD usually, a novice in a AWD can easily get to 4:42 on the uphill while a above average driver in a RWD can get about the same time in a RWD car.

how would you consider above average and novice on lb. Like position #?

Where does that put me then? I run 5:05 in an AWD uphill (I suck. XD)

You can't really use leaderboard positions to judge someone as it is relative to how many people race on the uphill (no one really does). My point was that anyone in a AWD car can do what someone above average could do in a RWD.

It's all subjective, there's novice drivers in fast cars, advanced drivers in slow cars, average drivers in average cars, etc.

I think an "advanced" driver would be someone that has the ability to run fast times in many different situations and has good control over a wide variety of cars. No one can really tell you exactly how good you are, just compare how you stack up against other people and you'll know.

StrawberryGL wrote:

It's all subjective, there's novice drivers in fast cars, advanced drivers in slow cars, average drivers in average cars, etc.

I think an "advanced" driver would be someone that has the ability to run fast times in many different situations and has good control over a wide variety of cars. No one can really tell you exactly how good you are, just compare how you stack up against other people and you'll know.

would a 2 min tune on a delorean that got me a 444 on ndh be considered good or bad?

Tru dat straw

A leaderboard is nothing but a box with times

once you race someone..time doesnt matter.
From there onwards endurance is key.

Well the fastest delorean on the downhill is a 4:38 so compare it to that.

betadood wrote:

Well the fastest delorean on the downhill is a 4:38 so compare it to that.

in that case I guess I got work to do

Obelisk wrote:

I guess that's true.  How much of a difference is there with AWD and RWD on the uphill?

Take this for instance. My main hillclimb car, the '97 NSX, is pretty much the only RWD car I have that can compete against AWD cars being driven by elite racers. And it wasn't easy to get it there. Took me about ~4-5 months to get my NSX from 4:39s to 4:35s. Then I thought "hey what can I do with an AWD?" Took me less than an hour to get a near 4:34 in an Evo VI. I pretty much never touched a 4WD after that. I didn't want to accidentally overwrite my record.

betadood wrote:

The only thing that can even keep up with AWD cars are mid engine RWD usually, a novice in a AWD can easily get to 4:42 on the uphill while a above average driver in a RWD can get about the same time in a RWD car.

I do that in my supra bruh

That's pretty nice Clutch, 42s in a Supra ain't too easy. Best I've done in a Supra was a 4:41.3 but a 40 is possible though. But still, pretty much every AWD can at least do a 39 anyway.

You liying kraze I swear you ran a 40 clean!!!

In an FD maybe but I never actually did it in the Supra... I think?

KraZe wrote:

In an FD maybe but I never actually did it in the Supra... I think?

In the best way you know how, exactly how do you get faster??, what should I do and what shouldn't i do

There are many ways to get faster, race other people's ghosts, race faster opponents ect

Clutch927 wrote:

In the best way you know how, exactly how do you get faster??, what should I do and what shouldn't i do

Don't be slow, try going fast.

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4:33.632 AE86

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I'm speechless, redefining the impossible yet again...

FD NDH 5:01:265

GoverningNick wrote:

FD NDH 5:01:265

5:00:333 Almost in the 4:50's club