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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
Posts : 730 Join date : 2012-12-28 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:08 pm | |
| Well its real life physics, ill try my best to explain. The car behind gains the benefits of reduced air resistance and decreased drag. This results in better fuel economy (not sure if thats in forza but it might be due to some races i have run where the spec cars ran out of gas at different times) and also increased speed. The car ahead gains minor drag benefits and does infact gain some speed however, the air resistance is still present which is why the car in tow is faster. Well, that and there is an interesting pulling motion that the air around the lead car creates. The air leaves a small vacuum where the car in tow can position itself, the direction of the air then pushes the car down and forward. Race car physics are very interesting. | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
Posts : 3489 Join date : 2013-06-08 Age : 28 Location : Nowhere important
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:09 pm | |
| How does the lead car gain a benefit? | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:12 pm | |
| The lead car does not have any drag. Drag is the air that is pushed around the car by the car. It pulls the car hence "drag". The rear car takes the drag resistance while the lead car takes the air resistance. Think of it this way. You are pushing a boulder while someone is pulling on your shit from behind. You have two forces to deal with, pushing and pulling. When two cars work together the lead car pushes, and the rear car pulls. | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
Posts : 3489 Join date : 2013-06-08 Age : 28 Location : Nowhere important
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:14 pm | |
| So in layman's terms, the rear car cancels the drag caused by the lead car? | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:14 pm | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:16 pm | |
| And the range that you can draft at increases with speed? | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:18 pm | |
| Indeed, i assume its some kind of hyperbola-like graph, maybe exponential. | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:22 pm | |
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bukkaz Fujiwara
Posts : 3447 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 35 Location : Stafford, England
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:32 pm | |
| Basically when you draft the air is hitting the front of the car in front of you and is hitting the front of your car less. The air is like an elastic cord that onky letting you get to for example 160mph then with less hair hitting the front of your car as you go along its like the elastic is legging slackened to let you go faster, the closer you follow the car in front the faster you go | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:35 pm | |
| I've had races where I snagged a slipstream at 190 MPH and then went flying past the lead car at 220 MPH on Sarthe. AThe car was quite some distance away. maybe 19-20 car lengths. | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:36 pm | |
| - Obelisk wrote:
- Who knows? Â Google it,
goooooood luck with that search. the mess of graphs would be mind boggling. but we digress. | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:38 pm | |
| So...any of you guys have PBs in the 4:40s with C class? | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:39 pm | |
| This should section of this post should be split, moved, and renamed the science of drafting. Â Â | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:46 pm | |
| whats offlimits for c class? as in leaderboard? | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:49 pm | |
| I think whatever everyone in the top 10 uses lol Also no forza aero | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:51 pm | |
| i never even looked lol ill make a few and hope at least one isnt a lb car | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:58 pm | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:07 pm | |
| - Obelisk wrote:
- So...any of you guys have PBs in the 4:40s with C class?
4:38.488 in the MR-S I can't believe I was asleep during the whole drafting conversation but Sainted did a good job to explain it. It's unnoticeable on Kaido but on Nurburg or Le Mans the lead car can gain 2-3mph if someone is drafting close behind on a straight. Air resistance is a funny little bugger. | |
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MiNd Founder
Posts : 2059 Join date : 2012-12-07 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:10 pm | |
| Take a look at the LB, Like B class, 90% of the top 100 is lotus elises. I think the Elan is big in C class | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:11 pm | |
| ^D class. It's a D-class thing. the Spark is LB in F-E. | |
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KraZe King of Eurobeat
Posts : 5218 Join date : 2012-12-08 Age : 30 Location : San Juan, PR
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:13 pm | |
| The Lotus Elan IS the LB car of C class. | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:18 pm | |
| Well, I'm not entirely wrong then. XD | |
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bukkaz Fujiwara
Posts : 3447 Join date : 2012-12-09 Age : 35 Location : Stafford, England
| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:18 pm | |
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Obelisk Fujiwara
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:24 pm | |
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SaintedPlacebo4 Touge Enthusiast
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| Subject: Re: Post your Personal Best Thread Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:28 pm | |
| ill just go ahead and sell that elan then (there goes my cuppaccinno...) | |
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