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PostSubject: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 11:55 am

Good morning,

I found this forum a while back while searching Google for actual "physical car" touge forums.  Nonetheless, I am an on and off iRacer (Currently off), and I picked up Forza yesterday unfortunately it was the "Essentials" version. I did not know that the Essentials version was not the full thing till after I got it.  Luckily, the couple cars I do like it has already, and DLC is pretty cheap.

So my question is where do I start, How do things work on here?  I am currently not signed up with Xbox Live so I know I will need that, but I just wanted to post and check things out before I paid for Live because I do not game much, and getting in a public race with a bunch of crashers is not what I am looking for.

Side not about me I used to time attack an actual RSX-S (Pic Below ) back in 2006/2008. The RSX-S gone.  I have a 2013 Civic Si Sedan now along with a wife and house and mortgage lol.  I hit up the country roads here, but that is it.  I see money a whole lot differently now days. Shocked 

Nonetheless, thanks in adv.

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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 12:07 pm

Welcome to the forums dude Smile what drive type do you wanna specialize in on the forza touge scene?
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 12:36 pm

bukkaz wrote:
Welcome to the forums dude :)what drive type do you wanna specialize in on the forza touge scene?
Knowing me I will probably drive the 12' Civic Si coupe.

Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 1:44 pm

Ok cool so your guna be focusing on an FF system then, in this forum there is a touge school with different teachers that specialise in different drive systems and specific cars, I dunno if they are still taking in students but have a look for the thread, it will be around somewhere Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 1:50 pm

bukkaz wrote:
Ok cool so your guna be focusing on an FF system then, in this forum there is a touge school with different teachers that specialise in different drive systems and specific cars, I dunno if they are still taking in students but have a look for the thread, it will be around somewhere Smile
Search for topics for "FWD" and "FF" not sure about the thread you are talking about. Interested though.

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 2:00 pm

Hey there. A good ff to start wirh is the eg civic Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 6:07 pm

On Live are there touge servers that are decent?  I am really just looking to get into a touge server with a decent group of drivers who are serious about whats going on.   Driving with a controller is new to me, but I do not think I need an instructor or anything. Granted my knowledge of touge rules and understandings may be lacking so some help would be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 6:11 pm

I'd say so. Normally the B and A class P2P lobbies are home to.fast and clean drivers. Occasionally you get the odd wall rider/crasher but it's rare.

Hmu if you want to run Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 6:27 pm

Welcome to Touge Union! The FF system is pretty fun to drive on the touge--I drive a Twingo on Forza. Hondas are definitely a solid base to start with, and they can be quite fast in B class.

Just don't use a 4WD in B class---take my word for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 7:06 pm

Velarys wrote:
I'd say so. Normally the B and A class P2P lobbies are home to.fast and clean drivers. Occasionally you get the odd wall rider/crasher but it's rare.

Hmu if you want to run Smile
I am about to go pick up a Live card so I will be on later and for sure tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 7:07 pm

So from what I gather is that you all pretty much pick a car and stick with it instead of jumping from car to car?
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 8:03 pm

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So from what I gather is that you all pretty much pick a car and stick with it instead of jumping from car to car?
Usually, yes. You only switch if you feel like the new car is faster. I've gone through close to 15 serious touge cars and 35 experiment cars.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 11:17 pm

sthompson1986 wrote:
So from what I gather is that you all pretty much pick a car and stick with it instead of jumping from car to car?
Yes, and always yes. There are many benefits to sticking with just 1 car to start out with. Get used to your car, then used to the track, the combination of learning both is enough, you don't need to constantly change the variables, it will only hinder your progress at first.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 11:46 pm

well im down for some practice runs!

and geting fast just takes time.
trust me.

Ask anyone and they will say the same,

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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 5:41 am

MiNdChArGeR wrote:
sthompson1986 wrote:
So from what I gather is that you all pretty much pick a car and stick with it instead of jumping from car to car?
Yes, and always yes. There are many benefits to sticking with just 1 car to start out with. Get used to your car, then used to the track, the combination of learning both is enough, you don't need to constantly change the variables, it will only hinder your progress at first.
Gotcha - Makes sense. When I played iRacing I stuck with one car, but when I get on Forza I am all over the place. bounce 
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 5:42 am

What is the track you all stay on? Seems like everybody has similar times around 4:30" to 5:00" on their sig.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 7:19 am

^ most of the time we race new downhill, thats where the times on everyones sig has been set
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 7:27 am

bukkaz wrote:
^ most of the time we race new downhill, thats where the times on everyones sig has been set
Gotcha - "Real Men Race Downhill" right? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 10:45 am

Welcome to Touge Union, man. That is a clean RSX you used to drive.

I don't think I've seen many newer Civic's on the touge. You may want to get in touch with Kirk and see if he has messed around with tuning those before. He is the FF mastermind of TU.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 11:39 am

MiNdChArGeR wrote:
sthompson1986 wrote:
So from what I gather is that you all pretty much pick a car and stick with it instead of jumping from car to car?
Yes, and always yes. There are many benefits to sticking with just 1 car to start out with. Get used to your car, then used to the track, the combination of learning both is enough, you don't need to constantly change the variables, it will only hinder your progress at first.
Firstly, welcome to the forums and I look forward to seeing you on the mountain at some point.

With regards to the "sticking with one car", I personally find it helps to chop and change. But that is just how I have always played racing games, I get bored if I stick to one vehicle, and that cause me to get sloppy with my driving. I also have a constant need to challenge myself, and will always be fiddling with the tunes on my cars to see if I can get more out of them.

P.S I would suggest you go out and get yourself a full 2 disk copy of FM4, it would be cheaper in the long run as you wont have to purchase all the "disk 2" content from the marketplace.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 1:29 pm

jusputitonmytab wrote:
Welcome to Touge Union, man. That is a clean RSX you used to drive.

I don't think I've seen many newer Civic's on the touge. You may want to get in touch with Kirk and see if he has messed around with tuning those before. He is the FF mastermind of TU.
Thank you! Yea I would think the newer Civic is not a go to for people. I am going to drive it no matter how bad it is lol. I wish there was a Sedan version.
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Ialyrn wrote:
MiNdChArGeR wrote:
sthompson1986 wrote:
So from what I gather is that you all pretty much pick a car and stick with it instead of jumping from car to car?
Yes, and always yes. There are many benefits to sticking with just 1 car to start out with. Get used to your car, then used to the track, the combination of learning both is enough, you don't need to constantly change the variables, it will only hinder your progress at first.
Firstly, welcome to the forums and I look forward to seeing you on the mountain at some point.

With regards to the "sticking with one car", I personally find it helps to chop and change. But that is just how I have always played racing games, I get bored if I stick to one vehicle, and that cause me to get sloppy with my driving. I also have a constant need to challenge myself, and will always be fiddling with the tunes on my cars to see if I can get more out of them.

P.S I would suggest you go out and get yourself a full 2 disk copy of FM4, it would be cheaper in the long run as you wont have to purchase all the "disk 2" content from the marketplace.
Thanks - I will probably stick with the newer Civic for a while, which I was able to download for free luckily. So unless there is other needs for the time being for the full on version I think I will be Ok with the essentials.
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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 5:49 pm

The New Downhill is the most popular, its kinda the go to for everything, so when people say "Oh I ran this time", you can just assume its New Down hill

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PostSubject: Re: Newb - Where to Start?   Newb - Where to Start? Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 6:35 am

MiNdChArGeR wrote:
The New Downhill is the most popular, its kinda the go to for everything, so when people say "Oh I ran this time", you can just assume its New Down hill

What is the name of the track? I have a feeling I know which one it is, but I cannot think of the name.
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