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PostSubject: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 1:07 am

We all have our own ways when it comes to driving & tuning. But with the touge I get stuck.

I can drift anything rwd, and tune it within 20 minutes on a simply base outline.

Currently for racing my base tune for all RWD cars is;

28.5 PSI front & rear.
25/15 on the diff.

I can't touch anything else as I always ruin it.

Can someone help with a basic outline for me to try for the springs & dampness. I know the tuning guide is good & gives out free tunes BUT, il never know what to look for when it comes to building my own.

Will happily do a touge AE86 tune in return ( there is already one on my YouTube )
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 1:43 am

I'm sorry I said that I would post it two days ago but I haven't done it yet Neutral I'll post mine tomorrow night.

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 1:45 am

No problems bro, just need to know what to do and not to do! Let me know when it's up so I can have a good old read. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 1:53 am

Well springs and dampers depend on the car. If a rwd is to twitchy try softening the rear settings. Rwd usually oversteers a lot with hard rear settings

Another approach is gearing. You need short gears of course but if theyre too short the car will snap over from clutch use
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 5:34 am

I can do the gears, that's easy.

What about rebound settings ?

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 6:30 am

Since i mostly do sport springs i never mess with that
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 6:53 am

So, use sport springs and ARB?

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 8:19 am

Arbs i do race springs sport
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 10:00 am

Hmmmm. So I presume I'm best off ( if I have to ) soften the rear in small amounts to notice the difference ?

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 10:32 am

Or do the opposite. Try max and minimum stiffness se what changes then 50% of both then decide which you liked better and put it on either 25 or 75 percent then repeat this with shortening areas of the adjustment bar till you hit the sweet spot. And then unbalance it a little. With stiffer front then rear.

If you know what i mean: youre pretty smart cause i lost it at one point xD
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 10:46 am

My general tuning goes like "make the driven end as soft as possible, the fine tune the other to satisfy balancing needs." Of course, I'm slow as balls.

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 11:19 am

I actually have my civics rear pretty soft as well and stiffer up front to reduce unersteer and oversteer all in one
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 11:48 am

I use a tuning calculator in excel to help optimize a base and edit from there. Its served me pretty well so far. It's mainly for circuit tunes but it helps put the suspension where it needs to be IMO

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 11:56 am

Ive tried one of those phoneapps. Not to happy with the results though
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 11:58 am

This thread belongs in General Chat, some useful tips are being posted here.

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 11:58 am

agreed

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 11:59 am

Make that 2
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 12:04 pm

Here's the link to the calculator forum:

http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=4859908

and a video tutorial to use it:


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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 12:21 pm

KraZe wrote:
This thread belongs in General Chat, some useful tips are being posted here.

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 2:23 pm

It depends, is that app the ' forza 4 app for Iphone ' or is it the one that forza has on their own website?

I shall check it out, but I find the settings are way too hard! ( stiffness wise )

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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Its that fm4 app for iphone i use. Not worth a penny for touge. The drift setups work well as base tunes though
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PostSubject: Re: Base tuning.    Tue May 28, 2013 7:19 pm

I posted my base tune for RWDs in the Touge Tune Database.

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