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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:56 am

Remember tho wha works for some doesnt work for others and i am by no means an expert tuner. Hope the info helped my g
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:46 pm

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With a lets say 2000 lb car i wud set my spring rates between 420 and 350 in the front and 310 to 375 in the rear. The heavier the car the stiffer i make my springs the lighter the car the softer the springs

That's working or me to, I just started doing that

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:59 pm

a simple way to set your spring rates to start tuning from is like this:

weight divided by 2

multiply by weight distribution for front springs

weight divided by 2 then subtract the front spring rate to get your rear springs

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2478 lbs. car with a 53% weight distribution

2478/2 = 1239

1239 x .53 = 656.67

1239 - 656.67 = 582.33


so front springs 657 rear springs 582

may seem a little stiff for some but its a good place to start tuning the balance. not to mention on the touge its soft dampers, not springs, that matter, IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:00 pm

Or just install sport springs lmao. Works better IMO

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:12 am

It will never be better, that's just lazy
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:12 pm

If it's lazy and it works then who cares right? None of my cars have race springs.

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:51 am

I've never had a race suspension setup that felt right. Sport suspension is a little too soft but I prefer it and make faster times with it so I stick to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:33 pm

Not saying it doesn't work, I can't dispute that. But race springs will always have more potential. If you took the time you could set race springs to feel excatly like sport does, while still being able to fine tune it. Even if sport springs feel good they'll never be perfect. No setup will ever be pefect, but race springs will get you closer. Kraze I bet you'd hit that 4'30 if you took the time to really tune your suspension well.
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:20 pm

THX, for the help!
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:13 am

As far as suspension goes, I used the calculations that some one else posted (I forget who, so I apologize). The formula may seem weird, but It feels very balanced. Instead of tryin to explain it I'll just show you an example.
--Okay, as an example I will use a tune from a 300ZX if I'm not minstaken.
It weighs 2765 with 52% front distribution, those are the only variables you need is weight and dist.

2765 x 0.75 = 2073.75
2073.75 x 0.25 = 518.4375
2073.75 - 518.4375 = 1555.3125
1555.3125 x 0.52 = 808.7625 Front
1555.3125 x 0.48 = 746.55 Rear

I guess the formula wouldnt be THAT hard to explain, eh? But it's very easy and every single time I've done this several times with several different cars and the cars always feel extremely well balanced. I actually almost broke the 40's in my 240SX. I got a 40.1 NDH =]
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:40 pm

If you're taking .75 and then .75 of the result why not just multiply by .5625 initially instead of bothering with all that extra math at the beginning.

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Thu May 01, 2014 8:24 am

it's x .75 then - .25 of the result.
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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:24 pm

Is it bad that when I tuned my car following this guide I'm now slower than when the car just had the upgrades and no tune

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:47 pm

No, because as a beginner tuning your car almost always makes it even harder to race. Even once you're at a high level, tuning has to be done very carefully or you risk throwing the whole car's balance off.

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PostSubject: Re: Touge Tuning Guide *Updated!*   Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:12 pm

I may try tuning it the way I would for circuit racing and see if it feels better. Maybe it's just that I like my car to be a cirtain way that the setup didn't give me
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