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PostSubject: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:37 pm

I am trying to find the right kinda setup for my 86 but no luck. Seeing people get better than me in such shorter time than me puts me on such a downer Sad can anyone help with some suggestions on what kinda setup I should be using on my 86?
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:45 pm

I've found Sport suspension to work great on the 86. As for gearing, brakes, roll bars, diff, and tire pressure, it depends on your driving style Neutral If you'd like a specific tune I could tell you mine but I haven't done any faster than a high 4:38 in it though...

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:50 pm

If you don't mind me suggesting, i've noticed you driving the MR-S quite a bit recently. The MR-S is a mid engine car, and a fast one at that. It's handling characteristics are very different from an 86, and you might have got used to it rather than the feel of an FR. It's a possibility...I know i'm not a very "versatile" driver, you might be the same.

I've already talked about 86 setups before, so I won't repeat myself. You've reached a level higher than a lot of people in the 86, it's up to you to push it past this point.

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:52 pm

Yeah I use sport springs in mine too man.i would be so happy with a 38 in an 86. You sure its ok to have your tune?
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:55 pm

^Yeah I don't mind since it's not a perfect tune to be honest. My average in it is a 4:40 but even tuned the 86 is a handful to drive even for me. I can send it to you later today when I'm done with homework Wink

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:57 pm

StrawberryGL wrote:
If you don't mind me suggesting, i've noticed you driving the MR-S quite a bit recently. The MR-S is a mid engine car, and a fast one at that. It's handling characteristics are very different from an 86, and you might have got used to it rather than the feel of an FR. It's a possibility...I know i'm not a very "versatile" driver, you might be the same.

I've already talked about 86 setups before, so I won't repeat myself. You've reached a level higher than a lot of people in the 86, it's up to you to push it past this point.
yeah I have been driving the mr-s a fair bit and im pretty fast in it but i dont wanna have to rely on that car because its quiet easy to drive fast in it and it out handles other cars easy and I dont like that because its not a challenge and wont get much respect for using that car if you know what I mean
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:59 pm

^I know that feeling. Soon people will call Miatas cheap cars like they did with the MR-S and then I'd have to switch cars again Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:03 pm

hey bukkaz there's no shame in using another tune. my tune for the 86 was shit compared to felons' so now i use his. i am not even remotely close to being in 30 club but we all know how slow my ass used to be lol
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:15 pm

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^Yeah I don't mind since it's not a perfect tune to be honest. My average in it is a 4:40 but even tuned the 86 is a handful to drive even for me. I can send it to you later today when I'm done with homework Wink
ok man thanks a lot Smile
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:28 pm

that slime kb wrote:
hey bukkaz there's no shame in using another tune. my tune for the 86 was shit compared to felons' so now i use his. i am not even remotely close to being in 30 club but we all know how slow my ass used to be lol
hey man yeah ibknow there is no shame in using someone elses tune but just wanted a really good tune to call my own. My c class 86 tune has been very successful and is very fast and manageable on the downhill and it got me 60th spot on the new downhill Smile but with the b class it feels like there is something im missing and dont know what it is and is really bugging me.
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:02 pm

Stop driving the MR-S, problem solved Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:13 pm

Felon wrote:
Example AE86 FR tune
Tires
PSI 28.5, 28.5
GEARING (all cars may vary)
Final Drive of 4.70 usually does the trick
ALIGNMENT
Camber -1.2 front, -0.8 rear
Toe + 0.2 front, - 0.4 rear
Caster 2.0
ANTI-ROLL BARS
14.0 front, 10.5 rear
SPRINGS
410, 370
Ride height 5.7, 5.7
DAMPING
9.0, 8.0
4.0, 3.5
BRAKING (depends on the driver) i usually use
45%, 110%
DIFFERENTIAL (depends on power of the car)
31%, 20%

sport springs arnt bad in a 86. however properly tuned race suspension is quite a bit better. you should also have a race transmition and race roll cage. HP between 164-168 and should weigh about 1,818lbs. if your rear is still 2 loose for you, try not upgrading the exhaust. the race exhaust makes the rear end quite a bit lighter. without race exhaust your car should weigh 1,840ish i believe. Thanks for the advice man I use sports springs, race roll cage, race camshaft and street exhaust and race transmission, driveshaft, and diff. And race tires with max width on both front and rear Smile
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:22 pm

Oh really I heard it gives more grip in the bends Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:23 pm

ran against a ghost earlier and got a 4:43 so guna keep doing that until its easy and then move it down another second Smile would still like to have a go in your 86 kraze Smile
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:48 pm

^Sure thing Wink

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:22 am

dont do it bukkaz he whipped my ass yesterday lol
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:40 am

that slime kb wrote:
dont do it bukkaz he whipped my ass yesterday lol
Lol^ that 86 had sport suspension but I made one with street suspension just after you left and its a bit faster Smile. I sent this new tune to you bukkaz Wink

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:39 am

Ohy god kraze this 86 handles perfect for me! I never knew an 86 could grip so well! Thanks man im in love with this 86 lol
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:52 am

^Seriously!? Dude thats awesome it handles better than before but to hear it from someone else is much more than satisfying! Thanks man Im glad you like it Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:18 am

I can push it harder than my old 86 Smile still gotta get used to it though
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:26 am

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I can push it harder than my old 86 Smile still gotta get used to it though
Feel free to alter things like the brakes. I use 200% brake pressure because I HAVE to (damn brake pedal is stiff as hell lol). The gear ratio is a signature on all my cars so if you prefer longer gears go ahead Smile

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:53 am

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bukkaz wrote:
I can push it harder than my old 86 Smile still gotta get used to it though
Feel free to alter things like the brakes. I use 200% brake pressure because I HAVE to (damn brake pedal is stiff as hell lol). The gear ratio is a signature on all my cars so if you prefer longer gears go ahead Smile
200% seems to be good on it to be honest Smile im not having any trouble with them Smile
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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:42 pm

Hey Kraze do you mind putting the 86 in the club garage? I would like to see what it can do. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:45 pm

No problem but I need to remove the paint on it first. I'll post it later today Wink
In fact, if more people are curious about it I can post it in the Touge Tune Database Smile

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PostSubject: Re: need to get fast in my 86!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:02 pm

You guys gona be on tonight? If so it ok to run with you guys and get used to this 86?
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